. >>> joining me is former bush commerce secretary and romney supporter, carlos gutierrez and also the founder of carmax, austin ligon. >> i want to play you something that elizabeth warren now a candidate for the u.s. senate said at the convention. >> the system is rigged. look around. oil companies guzzle down billions in profits. billionaires pay a lower tax rate than their secretaries and wall street's ceos, the same ones who wrecked our economy and destroyed millions of jobs still strut around congress with no shame demanding favors and acting like we should thank them. >> let me start with you. do you understand why businesses think that the obama administration has been anti-business. >> well, you have to differentiate between wall street and businesses. wall street is concerned that we put regulation back in place, and they caused essentially the financial collapse and we don't have a regulatory system to solve that yet. in enormous numbers the finance industry has been against the president this time, because it is in their interest. broader business is much more evenly spread